2. Cross Country Course Maps & Photo Tours

Miccosukee Greenway XC Course Tour

NOTE! NOTE! NOTE! Post 2008 season large cross country meets formerly held here are likely moving away from Miccosukee Greenway. Reportedly ( here and here ) meets will be held at Apalachee Regional Park beginning fall 2009. A look at this popular course, 50 meters at a time. Where's this venue? Within the blue rectangle: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=517844 The venue is a small portion of "Miccosukee Canopy Road Greenway," managed by Leon County Division of Parks and Recreation, Mr. Pat Plocek, Director: http://www.leoncountyfl.gov/PARKS/greenways.asp Maps of the park: http://tlcgis6.co.leon.fl.us/website/Parks_SDE/Maps/MiccosukeeGW_Overview.pdf (Entire park) http://tlcgis6.co.leon.fl.us/website/Parks_SDE/Maps/MiccosukeeGW_EdenfieldThornton.pdf (Section west of I-10) http://tlcgis6.co.leon.fl.us/website/Parks_SDE/Maps/MiccosukeeGW_I-10Crump.pdf (Section east of I-10) All trails on the Greenway (including some abandoned ones) are viewable here: http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/2822399 That GPS track from my 24May07 ride began and ended a few miles from the Greenway. The Greenway's west trailhead is off Fleischmann Road. The east trailhead is ~7M away, off Crump Road. The section south of Miccosukee Road includes singletrack different than the rest of the Greenway. 7Nov07 GPS track of just the 5Km course (anticlockwise) is downloadable, here: http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/4382312 Load these .kml files into Google Earth for best viewing/mapping. ABOUT THIS COURSE TOUR: Most of these photos are taken with my camera's digital equivalent of a "normal" focal length lens, for a natural perspective. I've tried to identify the shots taken with a wide angle equivalent. In those photos, things appear farther away than they really are. I'm showing two photo tour versions of the 5K. One shows the course running the "East Loop" (between 1470m and 3600m) ANTI-CLOCKWISE. See gallery pages 4-8 for that segment of the course. The other shows the East Loop CLOCKWISE. See gallery pages 9-13. The course tour after the East Loop continues on gallery page 13. NOTE: 1 Dec 07 FACA Senior All-Star Meet will run clockwise, or "highside first." Miccosukee Madness and FSU Invite normally run clockwise, or "highside first.." 1A/3A Regional FHSAA meet, 4 Nov 06, and the 18 Nov 06 FACA Senior All-Star Meet ran anti-clockwise, or "lowside first." 10 Nov 2007 3A/1A/2A FHSAA Meet (plus the Open 5Km to follow) ran anti-clockwise, or "lowside first." My preference? Anti-clockwise East Loop, or "lowside first." I think it has better flow, and any soft sand on the highside is easier to run going downhill than up. Maps posted below. Print the appropriate one and follow along. You might also try these FSU XC "highside first" 5Km/8Km maps: http://www.fansonly.com/photos/schools/fsu/sports/c-xc/auto_pdf/BothCourses.pdf 5Km HS course records: Boys' record - choose between: Eric Larson's 2007 3A Region 1 Meet 15:18.72 http://fl.milesplit.us/meets/30050/results/59345 Ryder Leary's 2002 FACA Sr. All-Star Meet 15:18.80 http://fl.milesplit.us/meets/3179/results/6086 (Ryder's may have been measured NCAA/tangent, which would make his 5Km ~70m longer.) Girls' record: Jenny Barringer's 2004 FACA Sr. All-Star Meet 17:32.70 http://fl.milesplit.us/meets/9104/results/19972 8K course is basically the same as the 5K, but runs two ~4K loops, then turns downhill to finish ~200m down near the 1Km point. NOTE: I used the NFHS "center of course tread" measurement for these shots. Everyone else (e.g., "community" races, Collegiate) should use the tangent method. That extends the course. Neither is incorrect. Measurement techniques obviously affect attempts to keep meaningful "course records." Of course so does, "Do I have a dog in this hunt?" I do believe NFHS needs to drop the center of course method. It can be used effectively with a wide course tread and lots of turns to achieve a "legal" short course. But it is still in the 2006 NFHS "Track and Field and Cross Country Rules Book," TFRB06, Rule 9.1, p.66: "Measurement shall be along the middle of the course." As of 2006, FHSAA has not modified that specification/technique. Back to our Miccosukee Greenway venue. Tangent-measured variants (e.g. FSU Invite) typically throw in a cul-de-sac loop at the top of the hill. This little loop adds about 70m each time it's substituted for a simple left turn down the hill. Mowing width variations also affect the course length and splits. Please keep these points in mind if some of these photos seem to be different from where you think they should be. THIS SITE is private property, and doesn't necessarily represent any other individual or organization. You are welcome to download/use my photos for your private enjoyment, including printing them. Any other usage/linking must come from me in writing (email ok), with credit given. Questions, pre-scoldings, comments, ID, complaints? Thanks, John Kalin Email me TallahasseeTrails on YouTube. "If I fall you're going down with me" - Trail running advice from my Dixie Chicks
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  • 2200m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    2200m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 2250m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    2250m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 2300m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    2300m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 2350m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    2350m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 2400m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]<br /> Just shy of 1.5M.

    2400m
    [Clockwise East Loop]
    Just shy of 1.5M.

  • 2450m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    2450m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 2500m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]<br /> Halfway for the 5K. For 8K race, this would be about 4K on the second loop.<br /> The right turn for the downhill run is visible ahead.

    2500m
    [Clockwise East Loop]
    Halfway for the 5K. For 8K race, this would be about 4K on the second loop.
    The right turn for the downhill run is visible ahead.

  • 2550m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]<br /> About mid-turn toward the "lowside" (south) trail.<br /> That left turn visible behind the Pugsley is a continuation of the highside trail. Stay right.

    2550m
    [Clockwise East Loop]
    About mid-turn toward the "lowside" (south) trail.
    That left turn visible behind the Pugsley is a continuation of the highside trail. Stay right.

  • 2600m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]<br /> It's all downhill or flat till we get back into the Edenfield pasture.

    2600m
    [Clockwise East Loop]
    It's all downhill or flat till we get back into the Edenfield pasture.

  • 2650m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    2650m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 2700m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    2700m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 2750m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    2750m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 2800m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    2800m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 2850m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]<br /> You can make out the Butterfly Meadow through the trees ahead.

    2850m
    [Clockwise East Loop]
    You can make out the Butterfly Meadow through the trees ahead.

  • 2900m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    2900m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 2950m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    2950m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 3Km<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    3Km
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 3050m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]<br /> Wide angle view, 27mm equivalent. Things are closer than they appear.

    3050m
    [Clockwise East Loop]
    Wide angle view, 27mm equivalent. Things are closer than they appear.

  • 3050m<br /> Same spot, normal view

    3050m
    Same spot, normal view

  • 3050m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]<br /> Looking back into the Butterfly Meadow toward the uphill side. The woods along the left (west) side have been used for the turn back to the Edenfield pasture during 3K and 2M course variants.

    3050m
    [Clockwise East Loop]
    Looking back into the Butterfly Meadow toward the uphill side. The woods along the left (west) side have been used for the turn back to the Edenfield pasture during 3K and 2M course variants.

  • 3100m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    3100m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 3150m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    3150m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 3200m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]<br /> Nearly at 2M. There's a cut-through to the right for the highside. Folks use it to move from getting 1M splits, then 2M splits.

    3200m
    [Clockwise East Loop]
    Nearly at 2M. There's a cut-through to the right for the highside. Folks use it to move from getting 1M splits, then 2M splits.

  • 2M<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]<br /> I've moved the Pusgley forward ~20m from the previous shot. (Notice the bench between the trees?)<br /> A look at the highside from the 2M point.

    2M
    [Clockwise East Loop]
    I've moved the Pusgley forward ~20m from the previous shot. (Notice the bench between the trees?)
    A look at the highside from the 2M point.

  • 3250m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    3250m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 3300m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    3300m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 3350m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    3350m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 3400m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    3400m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 3450m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]<br /> You can now see the Edenfield pasture, and the parking lot up ahead.<br /> If we were doing the East Loop anti-clockwise, the 1M point would be just about adjacent to the big tree.

    3450m
    [Clockwise East Loop]
    You can now see the Edenfield pasture, and the parking lot up ahead.
    If we were doing the East Loop anti-clockwise, the 1M point would be just about adjacent to the big tree.

  • 3500m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    3500m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 3550m<br /> [Clockwise East Loop]

    3550m
    [Clockwise East Loop]

  • 3600m<br /> We've now completed the East Loop, whether running it clockwise or anti-clockwise. So 3600m is here either way. Got it?

    3600m
    We've now completed the East Loop, whether running it clockwise or anti-clockwise. So 3600m is here either way. Got it?

  • 3600m<br /> Same as the previous shot, but looking back. You can see how we've closed the east "loop." Highside to the left, lowside (where we just came from) directly behind the Pugsley.<br /> Is that a wooden bell on the handlebar? What is this, Switzerland?

    3600m
    Same as the previous shot, but looking back. You can see how we've closed the east "loop." Highside to the left, lowside (where we just came from) directly behind the Pugsley.
    Is that a wooden bell on the handlebar? What is this, Switzerland?

  • 3650m

    3650m

  • 3700m

    3700m

  • 3750m

    3750m

  • 3800m<br /> From this view, you can see the little starting line tree (light green, left). We're about to veer right, behind the starting line, then head back downhill through the starting funnel for the last 1100m.<br /> <br /> (If we were doing the 8k, we'd veer left here AFTER TWO LOOPS.)

    3800m
    From this view, you can see the little starting line tree (light green, left). We're about to veer right, behind the starting line, then head back downhill through the starting funnel for the last 1100m.

    (If we were doing the 8k, we'd veer left here AFTER TWO LOOPS.)

  • 3850m

    3850m

  • 3900m<br /> Along the right side of the starting line.

    3900m
    Along the right side of the starting line.

  • 3900m<br /> Dead-even with the starting line tree, ok?

    3900m
    Dead-even with the starting line tree, ok?

  • 3950m

    3950m

  • 4Km<br /> The FSU folks will sometimes put up a 2 1/2 mile sign here.

    4Km
    The FSU folks will sometimes put up a 2 1/2 mile sign here.

  • 4050m

    4050m

  • 4100m

    4100m

  • 4150m<br /> That turn around the brushpile. Wonder if someone will dress up this greenery if we keep calling it a brushpile?

    4150m
    That turn around the brushpile. Wonder if someone will dress up this greenery if we keep calling it a brushpile?

  • 4200m

    4200m

  • 4250m

    4250m

  • 4300m<br /> Since poorly conditioned cross country types continually whine about this ~200m climb, I'm taking these next shots with the wide angle setting to make THE HILL look longer.

    4300m
    Since poorly conditioned cross country types continually whine about this ~200m climb, I'm taking these next shots with the wide angle setting to make THE HILL look longer.

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