Course design (scroll waaay down below all this text) by Brian Corbin and FSU XC/T&F Coach Bob Braman.
Leon County Parks linky. As of 7 Oct '09, an official (and quite slick) Leon County ARP webpage is online.
Fan Facebook page.
LOOK LOOK LOOK: An "every 50m" photo tour of the 5Km course is posted here.
Jason Byrne's influential running site Flrunners.com turned its attention to the Saturday race. Pro photographer Barry Jones covered the races. Bob Cooke, aka doctorbob has posted a video. Live blogging took place Thursday 8-9:30pm on Flrunners.com through CoverItLive. Here it is, should you want to read what we typed live.
FSU Invite Preview video with Coaches Braman and Harvey.
Tallahassee Democrat 10 October article.
See also Herb Wills' fine blog entries here, here, here, here, and one last one from 8 October here. More Herb Wills ARP photos here. Note that some course segments have been modified since Herb's earlier photos were posted.
Herb's photos depicting GWTC President Judy Alexander with course designer (and husband) Brian Corbin presenting a $10K check to Leon County Director of Parks and Recreation Pat Plocek.
Two part 5Km video course tour "at 12:52 5Km pace" is posted below. You might want to download the clips, particularly if your connection is spotty or slow. They normally play quite well if you pause them till they load fully.
Oh yeah - while watching, play your own preferred music, okay? By all means lemme know what works for you. I'm a "Holiday in Cambodia" kind of guy. There's always room for Jello.
5Km confirmed GPS track. The player allows you to follow as I lead you around the 5Km loop.
Another 5Km track here. The player allows you to follow as I lead you around the 5Km loop while shooting the video.
8Km confirmed GPS track. The player allows you to follow as I lead you around the 8Km loop.
A 22:09 8Km track here. The player allows you to follow as I lead you around the 8Km loop.
West Coaches' Connector GPS track.
East Coaches' Connector GPS track.
NEWER MEASUREMENT NOTES:
I went over to ARP 5 Nov '09 to satisfy my "calibrated measurement" curiosity.
Knowing the FSU Invite was likely measured USATF (tangent) style, rather than NFHS (center of course) style, I started at the marked 5Km finish and rode backward center of course all the way to establish a new start point for HS races. It came up 60m in front of the start line used at the FSU Invite. My experiences at similar "wide tread with lots of turns" venues suggested this was in the ballpark. I then measured NFHS style from the new start. Clicked over to 5.00Km right at the finish as it should, if I'm doing my job. Then went back to the FSU Invite start line, rode tangents (probably a bit too tight in a few spots) and came up 10m short at the marked 5Km finish. If I hadn't shaved those corners so severely, it would likely have been precisely 5.00Km, rather than 4.99Km. Marked splits are off, but that's not as significant as overall precision. My NFHS and USATF tracks. Remember, GPS is NOT useful for precise or repeatable measurement!! I relied upon a calibrated bike computer for these measurement duties.
GPS tracks like these are an assemblage of line segments. Distance-wise they are normally (but not always) short compared to reality. Best plan is to never use them to measure distance (or altitude) if you desire accuracy. The software you feed the track file into adds further mischief. My device normally gives one measurement, the three software packages I've used typically give three different distances. Gee, it's all so scientistic. Add speed and lots of tight turns and oh boy!
I just like the ability to produce a helpful Google Earth mashup map.
Course had its official christening 10 October with the FSU Invite.
Sunrise 10 October was 7:36. FSU Meet Info flyer.
POST RACE COVERAGE...
FSU Invite photo, video, results links as they roll in:
Did Herb Wills do a superb job of announcing the races, or what! This guy needs way more than an attaboy and a t-shirt. Herb's coverage.
Doug Covert's photos.
Flrunners.com coverage page. Post event forum thread. Look for Bob "doctorbob" Cooke's videos here. They will also get embedded at Flrunners.com.
Barry "Trihokie" Jones' FSU Invite spectacular photos. Trihokie Boys' HS 5Km video and Girls' HS 5Km video. Barry may have a Doctor Bob interview vid coming...check back here periodically.
Steve Andrews' photos. Some really sweet ones in here.
RunnerSpace.com coverage.
Seminoles.com coverage.
Tallahassee Democrat coverage here and here. Tallahassee Democrat's Robby McPherson remembered.
Lead bike GPS track.
Spikes are fine for all sections of this course.
Event participants need to take care to respect and not trespass on Seminole RC Club's field. Park and stay west of the road heading toward the XC course's starting field. Pick up MORE trash than you bring. The RC Club has been out here since the '80s. I've talked to club president Michael Atkinson about potential conflict with runners out here. He's very understanding. Even has a daughter who ran at the FSU Invite. Let's make this venue work.
THIS SITE is private property, and doesn't necessarily represent any other individual or organization. You are welcome to download/use my photos for your private enjoyment, including printing them. Any other usage/linking must come from me in writing (email ok), with credit given.
Questions, pre-scoldings, comments, ID, complaints?
Thanks,
John Kalin
Email me
"If I fall you're going down with me" - Trail running advice from my Dixie Chicks
http://www.tallahasseetrails.com/
Leon County Parks linky. As of 7 Oct '09, an official (and quite slick) Leon County ARP webpage is online.
Fan Facebook page.
LOOK LOOK LOOK: An "every 50m" photo tour of the 5Km course is posted here.
Jason Byrne's influential running site Flrunners.com turned its attention to the Saturday race. Pro photographer Barry Jones covered the races. Bob Cooke, aka doctorbob has posted a video. Live blogging took place Thursday 8-9:30pm on Flrunners.com through CoverItLive. Here it is, should you want to read what we typed live.
FSU Invite Preview video with Coaches Braman and Harvey.
Tallahassee Democrat 10 October article.
See also Herb Wills' fine blog entries here, here, here, here, and one last one from 8 October here. More Herb Wills ARP photos here. Note that some course segments have been modified since Herb's earlier photos were posted.
Herb's photos depicting GWTC President Judy Alexander with course designer (and husband) Brian Corbin presenting a $10K check to Leon County Director of Parks and Recreation Pat Plocek.
Two part 5Km video course tour "at 12:52 5Km pace" is posted below. You might want to download the clips, particularly if your connection is spotty or slow. They normally play quite well if you pause them till they load fully.
Oh yeah - while watching, play your own preferred music, okay? By all means lemme know what works for you. I'm a "Holiday in Cambodia" kind of guy. There's always room for Jello.
5Km confirmed GPS track. The player allows you to follow as I lead you around the 5Km loop.
Another 5Km track here. The player allows you to follow as I lead you around the 5Km loop while shooting the video.
8Km confirmed GPS track. The player allows you to follow as I lead you around the 8Km loop.
A 22:09 8Km track here. The player allows you to follow as I lead you around the 8Km loop.
West Coaches' Connector GPS track.
East Coaches' Connector GPS track.
NEWER MEASUREMENT NOTES:
I went over to ARP 5 Nov '09 to satisfy my "calibrated measurement" curiosity.
Knowing the FSU Invite was likely measured USATF (tangent) style, rather than NFHS (center of course) style, I started at the marked 5Km finish and rode backward center of course all the way to establish a new start point for HS races. It came up 60m in front of the start line used at the FSU Invite. My experiences at similar "wide tread with lots of turns" venues suggested this was in the ballpark. I then measured NFHS style from the new start. Clicked over to 5.00Km right at the finish as it should, if I'm doing my job. Then went back to the FSU Invite start line, rode tangents (probably a bit too tight in a few spots) and came up 10m short at the marked 5Km finish. If I hadn't shaved those corners so severely, it would likely have been precisely 5.00Km, rather than 4.99Km. Marked splits are off, but that's not as significant as overall precision. My NFHS and USATF tracks. Remember, GPS is NOT useful for precise or repeatable measurement!! I relied upon a calibrated bike computer for these measurement duties.
GPS tracks like these are an assemblage of line segments. Distance-wise they are normally (but not always) short compared to reality. Best plan is to never use them to measure distance (or altitude) if you desire accuracy. The software you feed the track file into adds further mischief. My device normally gives one measurement, the three software packages I've used typically give three different distances. Gee, it's all so scientistic. Add speed and lots of tight turns and oh boy!
I just like the ability to produce a helpful Google Earth mashup map.
Course had its official christening 10 October with the FSU Invite.
Sunrise 10 October was 7:36. FSU Meet Info flyer.
POST RACE COVERAGE...
FSU Invite photo, video, results links as they roll in:
Did Herb Wills do a superb job of announcing the races, or what! This guy needs way more than an attaboy and a t-shirt. Herb's coverage.
Doug Covert's photos.
Flrunners.com coverage page. Post event forum thread. Look for Bob "doctorbob" Cooke's videos here. They will also get embedded at Flrunners.com.
Barry "Trihokie" Jones' FSU Invite spectacular photos. Trihokie Boys' HS 5Km video and Girls' HS 5Km video. Barry may have a Doctor Bob interview vid coming...check back here periodically.
Steve Andrews' photos. Some really sweet ones in here.
RunnerSpace.com coverage.
Seminoles.com coverage.
Tallahassee Democrat coverage here and here. Tallahassee Democrat's Robby McPherson remembered.
Lead bike GPS track.
Spikes are fine for all sections of this course.
Event participants need to take care to respect and not trespass on Seminole RC Club's field. Park and stay west of the road heading toward the XC course's starting field. Pick up MORE trash than you bring. The RC Club has been out here since the '80s. I've talked to club president Michael Atkinson about potential conflict with runners out here. He's very understanding. Even has a daughter who ran at the FSU Invite. Let's make this venue work.
THIS SITE is private property, and doesn't necessarily represent any other individual or organization. You are welcome to download/use my photos for your private enjoyment, including printing them. Any other usage/linking must come from me in writing (email ok), with credit given.
Questions, pre-scoldings, comments, ID, complaints?
Thanks,
John Kalin
Email me
"If I fall you're going down with me" - Trail running advice from my Dixie Chicks
http://www.tallahasseetrails.com/
NOTE: This map applies ONLY to the 8Km!
First race of the day on 10 Oct '09.
8Km GPS track.
Try the player.
Note that the little NE loop (top right) is repeated three times, unlike in the 5Km.
First race of the day on 10 Oct '09.
8Km GPS track.
Try the player.
Note that the little NE loop (top right) is repeated three times, unlike in the 5Km.
NOTE: This map applies ONLY to the 8Km!
First race of the day on 10 Oct '09.
8Km GPS track.
Try the player.
Note that the little NE loop (top right) is repeated three times, unlike in the 5Km.
First race of the day on 10 Oct '09.
8Km GPS track.
Try the player.
Note that the little NE loop (top right) is repeated three times, unlike in the 5Km.
Original size: 1012px x 687px |
Current: 400px x 272px |
filename: ARP 8Km 30Sept09 |
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